Will you get your kids flu shots?

I won't, and here why...daughter had to have them when she was younger, she was born with a blood disorder that made it very very easy for to get sick but her little body couldn't fight an infection at all. I had to take her straight to the ER at the first sign of a fever, even if I thought it may just be teething or something. Anyways....everytime she got the shot she got the Flu and ended up in the hospital, since her blood is now in working order and I stoped getting her the shot we havn't had the flu once!!

Wow... I definately see why you wouldn't.

No, i will not be getting either one of my children the flu shot. They tend to survive quite well through the winter without one. Also i havent had insurance, medical or dental for well over 3 years or so, so thats just not something i worry about!

No way flu shot still contains a lot of mercury. Not something I want injected into my children or myself for that matter. Even before I stopped vaxing totally the flu shot was not something I would have done.

I have never had one. Every year dh gets one and gets the flu. DD is allergic to eggs so she cant have one anyway.

The worst case of flu my mom ever had was the 1 year she got a flu shot she thought she was going to die.

The flu shot is a crap shoot any way they guess at what strain to put in it and they are usually only right 50% of the time if that. Last year they totally missed it so anyone that got the shot was injected with mercury with no possible benifits.

Only the adult flu shot contains mercury, the dose they give to kids doesn't have any mercury in it.

not true Kim, there are some with mercury in them still. Some are mercury free but only about half of the used ones are that way. I believe the nasal one does not though.

I also will not get Nichole the flu shot. We have already had a severe reaction to a vaccine, so I am VERY choosy what she gets and that is not something on mylist let alone on the top of my list.

Well then maybe the ones my ped uses is the kind that doesnt have mercury, because she told me specifically that the only vaccinations that contain any mercury are the adult flu vaccines and the kids ones don't have them.

We aren't doing them anyways, but that is what she told us.

Mercury? Why would there be Mercury be in a flu shot?

Yeah we don't get flu shots here either. I get the flu every time I get one and my 1/8 of the time when I don't.

Mercury? Why would there be Mercury be in a flu shot?
there are quite a few vax that contain mercury...I have heard, like Kim, that most offices don't have these flu shots for children although I have also heard that the ones at the free clinics and medicaid offices still do contain Mercury :sad:

Mercury is a preservative. The nasal flu is a mist that is a LIVE virus so your child could give someone else the flu after it from being around them.

If you want to make 100% sure the shot your thinking of getting dosnt have mercury ask them to bring the insert in so you can look it over.

There are a lot of Dr. out there that think there is no mercury and are really surprised when they find out there is indeed mercury in it.

This information is directly from the inserts.
Fluaval
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/fluaval.html

• Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose contains 25 mcg mercury.

Flumist
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/flumist_pi.pdf

Agrippal S-1
http://www.whale.to/v/agrippal.html

Preservative: Thimerosal0,05 mg per 0,5 mL dose.

Fluvirin
http://www.whale.to/a/fluvirin.html

Preservative:Thiomersal 0,01% m/v

Fluviral
http://www.whale.to/v/fluviral.html

Do not administer this vaccine to individuals known to be sensitive to thimerosal or gelatin.
Thimerosal 0.01% is present in both whole and split-virion preparations as a preservative. Split-virion vaccine also contains 0.025% gelatin as a stabilizer and trace residual amounts of deoxycholate

Fluzone
http://www.whale.to/v/fluzone.html

Thimerosal 0.01% is added as a preservative.

So far every one has mercury in it :( Still looking and will be back with more links my computer is freezing on me.


And before you say well shoot we eat more mercury than that in some foods. Food goes through the stomach where if it isnt digested it goes on through. While the shot injects every micron of that mercury directly into the body.

Afluria
http://novaccine.com/pdffiles/afluria_flu_influenza_vaccine_package_insert.pdf



Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5 micrograms (mcg) of mercury


Fluarix
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf



Thimerosal is used at the early stages of manufacture and is removed by subsequent purification steps to a trace amount (≤1 mcg mercury per dose). Each dose may also contain residual amounts of hydrocortisone ≤0.0016 mcg, gentamicin sulfate ≤0.15 mcg, ovalbumin ≤1 mcg, formaldehyde ≤50 mcg, and sodium deoxycholate ≤50 mcg from the manufacturing process.
Even though they say it is removed there are still trace amounts. So that does not equal it not being in there anymore.

There are many more brands out there but I havnt seen one yet that dosnt contain at least trace amounts of mercury. This site here has the vax's listed and how much mercury it contains. http://poisonevercure.150m.com/vaccines/package_inserts/package_inserts.htm

Including:
Pediarix 0.3mcg (DTaP, Hep B, Polio combo vax)
MMR 0.3mcg

I strongly encourage any parent before allowing your child to be injected with anything to at least look on the package inserts. Dr's can and do lie some because they just dont know but some do it because they feel that they know what is best for your child. No need to clutter your thinking with things like mercury and formaldehyde being in there. :mad:

I went back and looked for more links to back up the ones I already found and since I cant edit my posts I am going to just post the links again with the new ones listed under the original.


This information is directly from the package inserts.
Fluaval
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/fluaval.html

• Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose contains 25 mcg mercury.


Flulaval (might be the same as Fluaval)
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose contains 25 mcg mercury.


Flumist
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/flumist_pi.pdf


Agrippal S-1
http://www.whale.to/v/agrippal.html

Preservative: Thimerosal0,05 mg per 0,5 mL dose.


Fluvirin
http://www.whale.to/a/fluvirin.html

Preservative:Thiomersal 0,01% m/v
http://www.fda.gov/CBER/label/fluvirinLB.pdf

Prefilled syringe, 0.5-mL. Thimerosal, a mercury derivative used during manufacture, is removed by subsequent purification steps to a trace amount (≤ 1 mcg mercury per 0.5-mL dose).


Fluviral
http://www.whale.to/v/fluviral.html



Do not administer this vaccine to individuals known to be sensitive to thimerosal or gelatin.
Thimerosal 0.01% is present in both whole and split-virion preparations as a preservative. Split-virion vaccine also contains 0.025% gelatin as a stabilizer and trace residual amounts of deoxycholate


Fluzone
http://www.whale.to/v/fluzone.html

Thimerosal 0.01% is added as a preservative.
http://www.fda.gov/CBER/label/fluzoneLB.pdf

Multi-dose vial, 5 mL, contains thimerosal, a mercury derivative, added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose contains 25 μg mercury.




Afluria
http://novaccine.com/pdffiles/afluria_flu_influenza_vaccine_package_insert.pdf[/URL]

Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5 micrograms (mcg) of mercury
http://www.afluria.com/docs/pi.pdf (http://novaccine.com/pdffiles/afluri...age_insert.pdf)

5 mL multi-dose vial containing ten doses. Thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is
added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5 micrograms (mcg) of
mercury




Fluarix
[URL]http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

Thimerosal is used at the early stages of manufacture and is removed by subsequent purification steps to a trace amount (≤1 mcg mercury per dose). Each dose may also contain residual amounts of hydrocortisone ≤0.0016 mcg, gentamicin sulfate ≤0.15 mcg, ovalbumin ≤1 mcg, formaldehyde ≤50 mcg, and sodium deoxycholate ≤50 mcg from the manufacturing process.
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

Thimerosal is used at the early stages of manufacture and is removed by subsequent purification steps to a trace amount (≤1 mcg mercury per dose). Each dose may also contain residual amounts of hydrocortisone ≤0.0016 mcg, gentamicin sulfate ≤0.15 mcg, ovalbumin ≤1 mcg, formaldehyde ≤50 mcg, and sodium deoxycholate ≤50 mcg from the manufacturing process.



Even though they say it is removed there are still trace amounts. So that does not equal it not being in there anymore.


There are many more brands out there but I havnt seen one yet that dosnt contain at least trace amounts of mercury. This site here has the vax's listed and how much mercury it contains. http://poisonevercure.150m.com/vacci...ge_inserts.htm

Good news I guess in a way :lol: There are 2 brands that are mercury free they do still contain other nasty stuff that can cause reactions including egg products. So if you do intend to get the flu shot for your LO's at least insist on one or the other. Note that these are the single dose ones only not the multi dose vial.

Fluzone http://www.fda.gov/CBER/label/fluzoneLB.pdf Single dose preservative free

1)Prefilled syringe, 0.25 mL, no preservative, pediatric dose, for 6 through 35 months of age, distinguished by a pink syringe plunger rod;
2)Prefilled syringe, 0.5 mL, no preservative, for 36 months of age and older;
3)Single-dose vial, 0.5 mL, no preservative, for 36 months of age and older;

There is no thimerosal used in the manufacturing process of the No Preservative single-dose presentations of Fluzone vaccine.

Afluria http://www.afluria.com/docs/pi.pdf

• 0.5 mL preservative-free, single-dose, pre-filled syringe.

The single-dose formulation is preservative-free; thimerosal, a mercury derivative,is not used in the manufacturing process for this formulation.
That is good to know for those that insist on getting the flu shot at least make sure it is one of these 2 brands. Although there are other nasties used in the manufacturing process.

Thx Boxer!

Still trying to figure it out...but probably will, per the recommendation of my husband, who is a nurse.

Keeping in mind that not having mercury in it is a big plus but there are other very nasty things used to make the vax. I no longer vax at all for various reasons but to me this isnt a cut and dried issue I think that every one has the obligation to do the research themselves then choose exactly which way they will go. If after doing research someone decides that the risks of the vax do not outweigh the risk of not vaxing then I can live with that. What I cant understand is someone doing it then something bad happening ie vax reaction then coming back and saying "If only I had known"

that was me Boxer. I had researched vax in a small way. I was a vet tech. I knew risks for animal vax and agreed that it was better to do it. Its brainwashed into you when you are in a medical field. Then when Nichole had a reaction I was so angry at myself for allowing them to do it without knowing.
I am not upset at parents who do that. I don't research everything, most things you have to trust your health care worker. You have to. If you don't, then you need a new one.